The "I do NOT hold the legal rights to share or distribute this content" checkbox made me laugh out loud!

Glad you enjoyed it, your comment made my day

I wrote the AI detection with copyright one :) Happy you liked it! I found out a bit after publishing that a comic called SMBC had a similar idea a few months before me, and their approach is really funny too http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/security

It's all about friction The optimal amount of fraud is non-zero https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/optimal-amount-of-fra...

If you want to support them now you can order prints. They have a sponsorship edition that costs extra if you want to extra support them.

https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/pagedout

>This goes for all new startups (non-profit or not!) if you want me to give you money, make it easy for me to give you money.

Man, as far as I know this is not some wanna be unicorn startup, this is curiosity-driven, for-hackers content managed by people who were top at competitive security for many years

Yeah, we need to onboard more Print-on-Demand providers - perhaps some with easier purchase flow (this said, I have to give it to lulu that they have solid customer support, at least in my experience).

But - per your edit - the PoD option is for folks who either really want a printed Paged Out!, or want to throw some money into the project. This year we got back to finding sponsors to pay for prints to distribute them (for free) on various events - https://pagedout.institute/?page=event-prints.php - and we plan to keep increasing our presence at more events next year. So the "in the right circles" just means "one of these events".

Anyway, whichever way you choose to enjoy Paged Out! - bought, received for free, or just the PDF version - glad to have you with us :)

Man, if making money off freely-available zines is this easy then I need to stock up on printer toner.

Hi, project lead here :)

I fully agree with you. We are slooowly working towards having also the printed version available in a subscription model (note: PDFs will remain free and we will also continue to give out free - as in "sponsored by [some company or event]" - on conferences / demoscene parties / etc). We still have to do a couple of things first, like:

1. Make sure our prints are consistently of good quality. As we've learnt this year, printing is hard, especially if you have to support multiple different printing companies. We're well on our way with this.

2. Rebuild the older versions to have them print ready - this is required for e.g. ISSN registration which we are working on. As we don't do typical DTP, but rather use a waay more complex process of Python-scripts-processing-incoming-PDFs (perhaps this wasn't my brightest idea, but it has its upsides), this takes a while (mostly because older issues were built using previous build engine and PDFs are hard - our DTP programmer has a lot of horror stories).

3. Well, find a company (or multiple companies) that offers subscriptions and ships worldwide and test them.

So it will still take a bit of time, but we'll get there :)

There's an RSS feed that is exposed in the standard manner (link tag in head), precisely what you're looking for. They do not offer a paid subscription, just the option to 'buy' individual issues, which is also linked under every issue.

My PDF renderer is written in JavaScript and runs in a web browser, it is already sandboxed.

I won't really mind if you'd like to pitch me on another that you're going to print. I paid $27 for print+tax+shipping for that Paged Out Issue #7. I can't cancel it any longer but if you want the $27, I can be convinced by a different online magazine.

Our home color printer is an inkjet, though we have a black and white laser, so it's not as economical for me as it might be for you and I'm happy to do the $27 for a similar 70 or so full-color pages of an equally interesting magazine.

I mean... you actually can do that... https://pagedout.institute/?page=commercial-prints.php

"If you would like to sell printed copies of Paged Out!, please contact us about a commercial license [...]. We're happy to work both with very small sellers who print and bind Paged Out! at home, [...]"

ETA: Though admittedly I wouldn't count on buying a yacht for money earned this way ;). Our income from "official" (lulu.com) sales are about 30-300 CHF / month, and this is only because a lot of wonderful people want to support us and get the more expensive "sponsorship" editions.

if you're asking "how do i easily buy prints", that's under the prints link atop, and you'll ultimately end up at lulu

https://pagedout.institute/?page=prints.php

https://www.lulu.com/search?contributor=Paged+Out%21+Institu...

I discovered it easily on desktop, idk about mobile

The art is evocative of even earlier science fiction covers, with the cheekiness of 2600 and early Wired, and a touch of Byte and Dr. Dobbs on content.

I give it two thumbs up.

Thank you! :)

You guys need to apply for an ISSN.

Thank you for following up.

As I said, this magazine is wonderful. One caution I have, taking what you said that you only intend to charge for prints, is that I don’t think it’s a great idea to self-devalue the PDF version by not charging for it as well.

1. Visit the site and get it free. 2. Subscribe, get the PDF delivered to your inbox and discount on printed version.

That way, you give folks an easy on-ramp to paying you while still giving out the free version.

That sort of friction is just enough to keep folks from giving money.

And that’s not me saying this, there’s an entire cottage industry devoted to pricing and buying decisions, and how friction reduces revenue.

If I take your suggestion to its logical conclusion, I would need to:

1. Get an RSS reader (I don’t have one, haven’t used one since google reader shut down) 2. Subscribe to their RSS feed. 3. Remember to check my RSS reader. 4. Each 3-4 months (just long enough for it not to be a habit forming exercise), click on the link. 5. Put in my credit card information each time. 6. buy the issue.

Or, I could use their “preferred” method:

1. Subscribe to their email list. 2. Click the link every 3-4 months when an issue drops. 3. Put in my credit card information every 3-4 months? 4. Buy the issue.

Each of these has far more friction in them than necessary, and hurts their overall goal, which is to make their magazine self-sustaining.

Thank you for letting us know of it here—sent them a pitch on the hidden vision math in color contrast fixes (FOSS lib: https://github.com/comfort-mode-toolkit/cm-colors). Fingers crossed! :>

I have published 3 articles and already sent the 4th, I invite everyone to join the discord server as we discuss also articles proposals :-)

If you're looking for recommendations for other zines, here are two (though both TXT format):

- https://phrack.org/ - well, this one you probably have heard about ;) (it has a printed form as well, but I think you have to actually find it on an event)

- https://tmpout.sh/ - this one focuses on Linux executables

But if you don't mind older content in amazing artistic forms, do check out old demoscene zines like Hugi: https://www.hugi.scene.org/ (note: these are in form of EXE files - that was pretty typical for scene zines)

Computer magazines in the 80s would have blown your mind.

https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1980-08

PDF in the spec contains an insane amount of stuff which could be exploited. But every reader other than the Adobe one leaves out most of the spec.

So I wouldn't be that worried about opening a random PDF in a browser. But I would be maybe worried about opening one in a desktop app written in an unsafe language.

What you're saying makes sense and it's a good idea. It's not fully directly applicable to Paged Out! though due to certain assumptions we've made with our base operating model.

I.e. our intention is to charge readers neither for PDF nor for print, to the extent that is possible. In case of print-on-demand or print-subscription that of course won't be possible, but at various events we're successfully bringing printed Paged Out! issues to distribute for free. The idea is rather for the zine to finance itself through ad sales, sponsorship editions, and special collector bundled editions. We have a couple of other more-typical ideas as well, like Pateron later on.

Admittedly, so far we're in the red (not terribly though), but that's OK. There are still certain things we need to roll out before being able to evaluate whether we need to change the base operating model. If we do have to change it, it's not unlikely to start with ideas like the one you proposed - they do make sense.

It's in progress, but we need to rebuild all older issues (to include publisher information on the editorial page as requested by the Swiss ISSN authority). And, because some of them were made when we still had the old build engine, there are technical issues we need to solve first before we can rebuild them ;). I expect we'll get the ISSN either near the end of this month or early next though.

Thanks! I pre-approved it today, so you probably already received a reply from our Editor-in-Chief :)

+1 to this! Paged Out! was inspired by some of the 1980s / early 1990s magazines (though Polish ones, like "Bajtek"). They could get stuff done on 1 page, which commonly was shared by multiple articles too :)

LainZine - very similar to PagedOut: https://lainzine.org/archive

Unredacted - Privacy/OSINT related. Only past issues are free. https://inteltechniques.com/magazine.html

N-O-D-E - Hardware/DIY https://n-o-d-e.net/zine/

I think the magazine is not designed to be a product that is bought, but rather something that is given away for free. A lot of the verbiage on the website discusses various ways to get and reproduce the magazine for free. Most of the content is submitted with a creative content license.

> I would expect to see a “subscribe” page, which would take payment information, and I would get emailed new issues as they come out.

You are not expected to pay to get emailed as new issues come out. Just join this group (link found on FAQ page) and you will get notifications: https://groups.google.com/g/pagedout-notifications

I was asked earler if I was willing to write but a severe case of imposter syndrome has prevented me from doing so.

Maybe joining the discord is a suitable first step...

> I think the magazine is not designed to be a product that is bought, but rather something that is given away for free.

Indeed - when you're in the right circles a free print copy of PagedOut will find its way to you.

A surprisingly common misconception about Paged Out! is that we have some super strict acceptance policy. In reality we almost never reject articles and try to work with authors to improve them if there's any need for that ;)

But if you feel worried, our Discord is open, and you can also just email us with an article topic idea and we'll give you feedback on it.