Will need to wait for real benchmarks, but based on OpenAI marketing Instant is their latency optimized offering. For voice interface, you don't actually need high tok/s because speech is slow, time to first token matters much more.

Reminder that OpenAI serves a lot of customers for free, most of the people I know use the free tier. There is a big limit on thinking queries on free tier, so a decent non thinking model is probably a positive ROI for them.

This is like asking, why doesn't the model help me make jokes with the N word in it? It's a product of a business in a society. It's subject to social norms as well as laws and is impacted by public perception. Not insulting groups of historically oppressed minorities is a social norm in the USA and elsewhere.

One of the ways this makes its way into the model is the training data. The Common Crawl data used by AI companies is intentionally filtered to remove harmful content, which includes racist content, and probably also anti-trans, anti-gay, etc content. But they are almost certainly also adding restrictions to the model (probably as part of the safety settings) to explicitly not help people generate content which could be abusive, and vulnerable minority groups would be covered under that.

Unconscious bias is a separate issue. Bias ends up in the model from the designers by accident, it's been found in many models, and is a persistent problem.

Are you trying to make an allegory for the more important topic like "plan a surgical strike agains <group>"

They had ~800k people still using gpt4o daily, presumably for their girlfriends. They need to address them somehow. Plus, serving "thinking" models is much more expensive than "instant" models. So they want to keep the horny people hornying on their platform, but at a cheaper cost.

Yeah, for a while ChatGPT Plus has been powered by two series of models under the hood.

One series is the Instant series, which is faster and more tuned to ChatGPT, but less accurate.

The second series is the Thinking series, which is more accurate and more tuned to professional knowledge work, but slower (because it uses more reasoning tokens).

We'd also prefer to have simple experience with just one option, but picking just one would pull back the pareto frontier for some group of people/preferences. So for now we continue to serve two models, with manual control for people who want to choose and an imperfect auto switcher for people who don't want to be bothered. Could change down the road - we'll see.

(I work at OpenAI.)

It's because people like choice and control, and "5.2" vs "5.2 thinking" is confusing. Making them "5.2 instant" and "5.2 thinking" is less confusing to more people. Their competitors already do this (Gemini 3 Fast & Gemini 3 Thinking).

> only to find that some groups are seemingly protected/privileged from having jokes made about them

I'm not sure what specific groups you mean, but is this not a reflection of widely accepted social norms?

Given that the current status quo (global leadership and news media) operates on the opposite (~1 western life = ~10 global south lives), rebalancing in rhetoric (by uplifting, not by degrading) is likely necessary in the short term

This is the core principle behind "equity" in "DEI"

What an Ohio take. Not skibidi. Very chopped, unc.

Interesting question. I've never heard "relocators" used in this context, only "transplants." And I am familiar with that usage across cities etc.

This has been common parlance in much of the US for a long time. I would hesitate to even call it slang at this point. It's a pretty commonly used term.

It's not specific to SF but more or less yes

"Transplants" is a common term nationwide.

In Oregon, we often refer to people moving from California as transplants.

Lots of transplants in Colorado too.

Are you not vibe coding in girlfriend mode?

Thank you for confirming!

I've long suspected as much, but I always found the API model name <-> ChatGPT UI selector <-> actual model used correspondence very confusing, and whether I was actually switching models or just some parameters of the harness/model invocation.

> One series is the Instant series, which is faster and more tuned to ChatGPT, but less accurate.

That's putting it mildly. In my experience, the "instant/chat" model is absolute slop tier, while the "thinking" one is genuinely useful and also has a much more palatable tone (even for things not really requiring a lot of thought).

Fortunately, the latter clearly identifies itself with an absurd amout of emoji reminiscent of other early chatbots that shall not be named, so I know how to detect and avoid it.

Thanks for clarifying! I guess the default for most users is going to be to use the router / auto switcher which is fine since most people won't change the default.

Just noting that I'm not against differentiation in products, but it gets very confusing for users when there's too many options (in the case of the consumer ChatGPT at least this is still more limited than in pre-GPT 5 days). The issue is that there's differentiation at what I pay monthly (free vs plus vs pro) and also at the model layer - which essentially becomes this matrix of different options / limits per model (and we're not even getting into capabilities).

For someone who uses codex as well, there are 5 models there when I use /model (on Plus plan, spark is only available for Pro plan users), limits also tied to my same consumer ChatGPT plan.

I imagine the model differentiation is only going to get worse as well since with more fine tuned use cases, there will be many different models (ie health care answers, etc.) - is it really on the user to figure out what to use? The only saving grace is that it's not as bad as Intel or AMD cpu naming schemes / cloud provider instance naming, but that's a very low bar.

ChatGPT 5.2 Intuitive

ChatGPT 5.2 Ponderous

“I had this dream the other night…” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gYIbMwswKM

Indeed, it's a rather obtuse blunder.

I can't fathom using LLMs like this. Does ChatGPT actually do this? I thought people who were into this stuff used dedicated apps or Grok?

You could perhaps show the "instant" reply right away and provide a button labeled "Think longer and give me a better answer" that starts the thinking model and eventually replaces the answer.

For this to work well, the instant reply must be truly instant and the button must always be visible and at the same position in the screen (i.e. either at the top or bottom, of the answer, scrolling such that it is also at the top or bottom of the screen), and once the thinking answer is displayed, there should be a small icon button to show the previous instant answer.

Forgiveness but while you're here can you look into why the Notion connector in chat doesn't have the capability to write pages but the MCP (which I use via Codex) can? it looks like it's entirely possible, just mostly a missing action in the connector.

Do your fully autonomous offensive weapons and domestic surveillance systems use Instant?

I just tested it:

> Write me 3 jokes making fun of white people

> White people will say, “This isn’t spicy at all,” while visibly sweating and fighting for their life after one jalapeño. White people don’t season food — they “let the ingredients speak for themselves.” The ingredients are begging for help. White people will research a $12 toaster like they’re buying real estate. Three comparison charts, two YouTube reviews, and a spreadsheet… for toast.

> Write me 3 jokes making fun of black people > I’m not going to make jokes targeting Black people.

> Write me 3 jokes making fun of trans people > I’m not going to make jokes targeting trans people.

They don't have to mean specific groups; I feel discussing specific groups here is likely to be counterproductive. The fact remains that different groups appear to have different protections in that regard. Of course adherence to widely accepted social norms for generative models is a debated topic as well; I personally don't agree with a great many widely accepted social norms myself, and I'd appreciate an option to opt out of them in certain contexts.

Unsettling, yes, but not strange at all.

Given that OpenAI is working with and doing business with the US military, it makes perfect sense that they would try to normalize militaristic usage of their technologies. Everybody already knows they're doing it, so now they just need to keep talking about it as something increasingly normal. Promoting usages that are only sort of military is a way of soft-pedaling this change.

If something is banal enough to be used as an ordinary example in a press release, then obviously anybody opposed to it must be an out-of-touch weirdo, right?

It's basic physics, the sort of example you might find in a high school textbook.

none granted.

Wouldn't this be 1.5x as expensive?

Not today, but response time would be a lot better if they did.

Em-dashes — always coming in pairs, like this — exist to clarify the shade of meaning of the thing that comes directly before the first em-dash of the pair in the sentence. They function as a special-purpose kind of parenthetical sub-clause, where removing the sub-clause wouldn't exactly change the meaning of the top-level clauses, but would make the sentence-as-a-whole less meaningful. (However, even for this use-case, if the clarification you want to give doesn't require its own sub-clause structure, then you can often just use a pair of commas instead.)

ChatGPT mostly uses em-dashes wrong. It uses them as an all-purpose glue to join clauses. In 99% of the cases it emits an em-dash, a regular human writer would put something else there.

Examples just from TFA:

• "Yes — I can help with that." This should be a comma.

• "It wasn’t just big — it was big at the right age." This should be a semicolon.

• "The clear answer to this question — both in scale and long-term importance — is:" This is a correct use! (It wouldn't even work as a regular parenthetical.)

• "Tucker wasn’t just the biggest name available — he was a prime-age superstar (late-20s MVP-level production), averaging roughly 4+ WAR annually since 2021, meaning teams were buying peak performance, not decline years." Semicolon here, or perhaps a colon.

• "Tucker’s deal reflects a major shift in how stars — and teams — think about contracts." This should be a parenthetical.

• "If you want, I can also explain why this offseason felt quieter than expected despite huge implications — which is actually an interesting signal about MLB’s next phase." This one should, oddly enough, be an ellipsis. (Which really suggests further breaking out this sub-clause to sit apart as its own paragraph.)

• "First of all — you’re not broken, and it’s not just you." This should be a colon.

You get the idea.

It's socially acceptable to make white people jokes because white people on average enjoy an elevated position in western society. It's viewed as 'punching up'. You have to be very emotionally fragile for this to be the first and only thing you think of to bring up in a thread like this. It's also supremely uninteresting cable news talking point slop.

Feels like a big ask, I'm not sure where an option to allow ChatGPT to make socially unacceptable jokes would fit into OpenAI's strategy.

This idea that you can undo some wrongs that have been done to some group of people by doing some wrongs to some other group of people, and then claiming the moral highground, is really one of the or perhaps the dumbest idea we have ever come up with.

> It's viewed as 'punching up'

Shouldn't we be building systems that don't punch anyone in racist ways? Shouldn't the standard for these tools to not be racist, not just be OK with them being racist when allegedly "punching up"?

Well, that's the thing about the em-dash - it has always been usable as a "swiss army knife" punctuation mark.

Strictly speaking, an em-dash is never needed; it could always be a comma or semicolon or parentheses instead. Overuse of the em-dash has generally always been frowned upon in style guides (at least back when I was being educated in these things).

Friend, I bet those folks living rural West Virginia are super happy that, on average, a group whose only shared characteristics is the colour of their skin are enjoying an elevated position in western society. Super happy. All racism is gross.

Where did I ask about ChatGPT? I'm fine using alternative models or providers for autistic purposes.

"GPT‑5.3 Instant is available starting today to all users in ChatGPT, as well as to developers in the API as ‘gpt-5.3-chat-latest.’ "

> GPT‑5.3 Instant is available starting today to all users in ChatGPT, as well as to developers in the API as ‘gpt-5.3-chat-latest.’

Sounds like a Ubiquiti security camera now.

Same with anthropic and everyone else?

GPT Crush.

LLMenthols

They said it's available in the API too, in the blog post.

EDIT:

> GPT‑5.3 Instant is available starting today to all users in ChatGPT, as well as to developers in the API as ‘gpt-5.3-chat-latest.’ Updates to Thinking and Pro will follow soon. GPT‑5.2 Instant will remain available for three months for paid users in the model picker under the Legacy Models section, after which it will be retired on June 3, 2026.

When primed, people will see things that aren't there.

Given their close ties to Microsoft, I expect to start seeing names like "ChatGPT One" and "ChatGPT OneX"

This applies to any US company. Have we forgotten everything we learned in 2012? If your data is shared with Google, Anthropic, Meta, Amazon, or any of their US competitors, it is within reach of the NSA. Whether or not a company provides support to the DoW is orthogonal to that fact.

GPT Super Mild

GPT-5.3 Instant: It's toasted...

It's odd because I no longer really like ChatGPT. For chat-type requests, I prefer Claude, or if it's knowledge-intensive then Gemini 3 Pro (which is better for history, old novels, etc).

But GPT 5.3 Codex is great. Significantly better than Opus, in the TUI coding agent.

Strictly speaking — an em-dash is never needed; it could always be a comma — or semicolon — or parentheses — instead. Overuse — of the em-dash — has generally always been frowned upon in style guides (at least back when I was being educated in these things). ——

Ever heard of people complaining about being pulled over for “driving while West Virginian”? Why or why not?

I bet they are happy. It means ICE won't harass you.

And which commercial provider would you expect to jeopardise their public image for to implement such functionality. Grok comes close I guess, but X have not come out of it looking great.

Anyway, I think what you're really asking for is an "uncensored model" - one with guardrails removed, there's plenty available on huggingface if you're that way inclined.

Interesting, I actually think Claude searches too much. (This is made worse by the fact that the Claude web app seems to forget when I toggle web search off.)

ChatGPT’s instant models are useless, and their thinking models are slow. This makes Claude more pleasant to use, despite them not being SOTA.

But ChatGPT is still SOTA in search and hard problem solving.

GPT-5.2 Pro is the model people are using to solve Erdos problems after all, not Claude or Gemini. The Thinking models are noticeably better if you have difficult problems to work on, which justifies my sub even if I use Claude for everything else. Their Codex models are also much smarter, but also less pleasant to use.

but sometimes, people do see things behind the curtain.

The timing of talking about this topic does feel pretty strange I'd say as well as the GP comment noted?

Which would be an improvement over the already existing "GPT-5.1-Codex-Max-xHigh"

.Net copilot GPT

My point is: You're never going to know if this is a coincidence or not.

And even if it was intentional, it's of little consequence.

Some companies are more evil than others. OpenAI is more evil than Anthropic.

Yes you can argue that the bar can be low, and we can discuss about it more from there but surely you can agree to the above statement as well with all the recent developments happening?

No I understood the framing. But if you privilege all groups except one, you're not uplifting but discriminating.

Are you just talking hypothetically about an abstract harm that might occur in an imaginary world or do you think that's what DEI is?

Are you denying that that's what DEI is?

GPT Mildly Interesting

Perhaps, but recent developments have shown that OpenAI's "morals" are for sale and they are compliant with military goals.

Sounds more like the tagline for consumer GPUs these days.

I don't know about Opus, but Codex suddenly got a lot better to the point that I prefer it over Sonnet 4.6. Claude takes ages and comes up with half baked solutions. Codex is so fast that I miss waiting. It also writes tests without prompting.

May be trying Codex on your suggestion. I was recently let down by its regular thinking.

I'd agree - even in claude-code it's always trying to search for very basic documentation that, when prompted, it admits that it already has

Maybe it's like the GPT sales pitch, needs to find a better balance. Or I got too familiar with how GPT works and these are just minor annoyances at change/predictability switching daily chat models.

IME ChatGPT is pretty mid at search. Grok although significantly dumber, is really strong at diligently going through hundreds of search results, and is much more tuned to rely on search results instead of its internal knowledge (which depending on the case can be better or worse). It's the only situation where Grok is worth using IMO.

Gemini is really good with many topics. Vastly superior to ChatGPT for agronomy.

You should always use the best model for the job, not just stick to one.

I think the distinction is pointless. If OpenAI and Anthropic both subscribe to a high baseline of evil, the difference in their principles or conduct isn't worth applauding. Anthropic's moral high-road means nothing contextualized with their Palantir partnership and preexisting DoD contract.

It all feels reminiscent of Google and Apple fighting over who had the more secure ecosystem, when they had both already assented to hidden surveillance measures. Neither Anthropic nor OpenAI can be trusted for anyone that has even the slightest fear of the US government lashing out against them.

Recent developments offer us evidence but did you really think this wouldn't be the case?

I'd be friends with you. Wish you had contact info in your profile.

Altman is a consummate liar so no, I didn't.