Could you elaborate on this?

As per the usual, my internet went down and I switched to the backup Starlink. After working with it for about a week I cancelled my ISP.

Turned out around 350MBPS down was fine for everything I was doing (and it's way more reliable).

My cell is unusable.

I found it quite absurd that Spectrum (my cable operator) wants to sell me a modem with integrated 5G/4G backup knowing that as soon as the cable plant drops, hundreds of local phones are going to congest the network as well and my "Invincible WiFi(tm)" will end up dead as a dodo.

I'll just throw a Peplink up and throw the cable and Starlink into it and run that as my load balancer.

I then found out that all providers bar one (there are 5 or 6) come along the same street.

So if you are going to go with this option choose carefully your providers!

> It has the advantage of working pretty much anywhere with a view of the sky so no relying on mobile network coverage.

I'm also not sure if $25/month is anything close to the global average for unlimited 4G/5G data (if even available).

What makes Musk different than Blackrock for instance? Or Monsanto, or Shell, or any corporation both of us rely on and support, in return for being able to eat, fuel our car, etc.

Is it because Musk isn't lobbying behind the corporation but doing it publically?

I truly don't understand where ya'll draw the line.

I truly don't care what other people do or want, I just look to ensure I can live the life I desire while respecting that which others want or impose. As if me being angry or boycotting them will change their hearts. If it changes anything it's their tactics (more deception).

Another example is AI. I despise it, and honestly think it's evil. Yet I'm using it to secure financial stability in a way that does not require AI to sustain.

So when AI takes over my programming job I have the alternative already running, thanks to AI.

Don't reject the massive advantages of Starlink because of a man, just as you're not actively starving yourself despite our food supply being basically poison, caused by boards of men.

My girlfriend had been paying for 1Gb fiber for about 5 years at the insistence of the rep because "You stream 4k content and use your internet for work". $110/mo or something. Verizon comes by and sets her up with a modem and an "auto-route smart 2.4GHz/5GHz" router which slots you into a frequency based on...something. Who knows because it didn't work. It just put everything on 2.4GHz.

I noticed while at her house that the internet was painfully slow downloading large files and dug into it.

For those who don't know, 2.4GHz will typically top out around 100Mbps. Around the house you're looking at closer to 50Mbps. With 5Ghz it's much better, about 500Mbps typical, but verizons awful "smart" router just put everything on 2.4GHz.

So for years she had been paying for 1Gbps, Verizon happily taking her money, while she never saw over 100Mbps. It's also not like they tell you anywhere that the router they give you will only realistically offer 1/10th your Gb speed. Such a dumpster tier company. I can only imagine there are tens of thousands being conned by this scheme.

Anyway, I put in a new router and switched to the cheapest plan. The internet is now much faster.

It's because Musk enjoys it.

Any other tu quoque fallacies to dispense with?

Is this about journalists talking about musk, or about musk himself? I mostly learn about his views through his own tweets that twitter always makes sure to serve me in my home page, and "goes for clicks"/"generating outrage" seems to fit well how musk uses his platform. In any case, his politics seem awful to me even without any journalistic mediation of them.

The Unifi 5G modem for the UK [1] is £378 (~USD500) and that's just the hardware, you still have to pay for a suitable SIM.

I can see why some people are drawn to the Starlink option at 1/3 of that price.

1. https://uk.store.ui.com/uk/en/category/internet-solutions/co...

Open support for right-wing parties and politics all over the world.

You dont NEED a starlink like you need food or being able to commute etc.

Tesla, starlink are more a luxury for an average hn user.

I think it's pretty easy to understand.

You have a service you want, but subscribing to it is a clear and direct way to financially support the advancement of fascist, extremist political groups and regimes pushing alarmingly racist and xenophobic policies not only in the US but also across the world.

Does your convenience justify a totalitarian shift? I don't think so. Do you think it does?

Just look at the whole DOGE mess. Brush aside anything you believe can be brushed aside due to incompetence. Look at the result.

Explain exactly what can possibly lead you to believe that his politics are less extreme than you possibly think.

You're talking about the Nazi salute guy, by the way.

Starlink only makes sense as a last resort if LTE coverage is not available in your area.

If you ever visit Bonaire let me know and I can show you the abundance of life we are stewarding on my land.

It's mostly setting healthy boundaries on what we perceive we can affect. I don't buy American food (except Cocoa Rice Crispies), functionally it's a boycott. Is that the reasoning? No, it just tastes like crap.

Tell me more about how Starlink is a luxury.

Especially considering it's a full $10 less than the monthly robbery by our local Telco.

If you can show me the list of people you boycotted due to open support for left-wing parties we can talk.

Or do we only attempt to silence those that have standpoints we don't agree with?

Let me know, I'm new to this silencing of opinion thing but I notice it's what society will democratically choose for given the loud voices in that direction.

Wisdom is preparing for the shift using any legal means neccesary.

Morals are a mostly internal issue anyway, not based on solely external actions. You know the whole stealing bread to feed hungry children idea.

What you are doing we teach our kids to be virtue signaling. Nobody is saying or at least I am not assuming you support Musk if you have Starlink. I simply think you have need for sattelite internet.

Just like I don't automatically assume your reason for eating meat (if you do) is to show your approval for modern slaughtering practices. Or if you wear clothing... does that mean you support exploitative labour?

Also FYI nobody really cares about American policies outside the US. We're mostly busy insulating ourselves from the effects we're perceiving.

More European food cause your food is now weird, more Chinese stuff since you don't manufacture much anymore, less media content cause they all want to teach our kids about more genders we know about.

But we do love Starlink! Fastest internet we ever had here.

Why did Musk buy Twitter? Do you remember how totalitarian-like Twitter was controlled?

Or do you wish me to forget since it was for the left?

The totalitarian shift is coming from people like you who feel like you have a total control on what is true and right. And from that standpoint you then declare others to be racist and xenophobic without attempting to truly understand their reasoning.

Not to mention the ever-increasing lack of tolerance for religion based views. Is it not your consitution that says that all men are born free, and are free to vote based on their OWN conciousness?

Yet they are labeled right-wingers and publically shamed and marginalized when possible. Even when all they want are federal repeals so each state can decide.

Do you not see that you guys have become the totalitarian ones? Wanting to impose how to view even life itself on others.

The issue isn't just Musk's politics. It's that his actions have been evil, the kind of negative impact that major wars have.

We're talking something like 1 million dead people per year with a quarter of those being children. For a level of assistance that cost the US nothing (0.43% of federal spending). This is an evil that in a few years puts you on the list of biggest mass murderers in history.

For all other cases, you can still try to not give money to people who suck by going for fair trade products and stuff like that.

There I read the labels and where possible buy local.

Your assumption lies on the "without realizing it".

If you realize how bad the people are, you can do something about it.

The likes of Musk are extremely bad, and have been personally responsible for many, many abhorrent developments in both national and foreign stages.

Thus, it's natural that people avoid anything which is directly and indirectly tied to the likes of Elon Musk.

Don't you agree?

"My heart goes out to you" with a throwing gesture that ends with your arm outstretched. Of course, only the final position was blasted all over the press.

It's the easiest non support of my life, I don't use Twitter, don't have a Tesla, don't use grok.

You need to be terribly naive to ignore the fact that the guy known for supporting a swath of fascist and far-right groups, to the point the guy even hosts their events, wasn't casually throwing around Nazi salutes.

The problem is you have no idea what people are invested in what companies. How do you know that when you shop at $friendlySustainableCompany that people like Musk do not have shares there?

That's not an argument that justifies in any way ignoring the people you do know.

Do you think it's ok to ignore the far-right activist who has been deeply involved in election fraud?

I, too, have a Starlink account for emergency backup service that I plan to switch over to Amazon LEO as soon as it's available. Lesser-evil principle at work again. Yes, there are things that aren't great about Amazon, but Amazon's practices are largely in sync with my capitalist values.

Musk's businesses are also compatible with my capitalist values, but those values don't include his special additional bonus values of Nazi-adjacent behavior, association with known pedophiles, sabotaging the government, or active subversion of elections. It's not a religious thing, it's just that given a choice, I'd rather support someone else.