[1]: https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/2021/06/19/preparing-for...
I wish TLS behaved better with private networks but I around certificates continues to mostly be oriented around the Internet.
(Sometimes being first doesn't help.)
Can anyone explain? They complain that routing on the internet is (somewhat) hierarchical to scale, but then don't explain their solution to the same problem(s).
The simplified choice has always been distance-vector, or link state. Are they a better attempt at one of these? Some new idea?
in pf syntax:
table <yggdrasil> persist file "/etc/yggdrasil-allowed"
pass in quick on tun0 inet6 proto tcp from <yggdrasil> to port $servicesTrue P2P Email on Top of Yggdrasil Network - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46080143 - Nov 2025 (38 comments)
Yggdrasil Network - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44337902 - June 2025 (4 comments)
Yggdrasil Linux/GNU/X - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43923380 - May 2025 (3 comments)
Yggdrasil is an experimental compact routing scheme that is fully decentralised - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43921624 - May 2025 (53 comments)
Yggdrasil Network - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42155780 - Nov 2024 (106 comments)
Yggdrasil Network - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41669625 - Sept 2024 (3 comments)
Yggdrasil P2P mesh E2EE IPv6 network - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30156551 - Jan 2022 (77 comments)
Yggdrasil – Early-stage implementation of an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27577201 - June 2021 (102 comments)
Show HN: Yggdrasil Network – compact mesh routing experiment for mesh networks - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18863554 - Jan 2019 (15 comments)
Announcing Yggdrasil Network v0.3 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18751991 - Dec 2018 (3 comments)
Yggdrasil: End-To-end Encrypted IPv6 Networking - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18666245 - Dec 2018 (1 comment)
You have three devices at home, A, B and C. Only device A have Internet connection and can connect to public Yggdrasil node. B can connect only to A and C. C can connect only to B. Have Yggdrasil installed on all of them (and tell Yggdrasil about the peers), all devices would have access to full Yggdrasil network.
I think they appropriate Tolkien (who despised the Nazis and their corruption of "Germanic" ideals and Norse mythology) because a lot of them are nerds who don't read too deeply into it, like how right-wingers and conservatives enjoy Star Trek while being completely oblivious to its progressive ideology.
It was before "Americans" came along.
> The Lord of the Rings is a great story, but I have to say, I’ve never understood the strange hold it seems to have on the imagination of a particular breed of technologists.
> As a story it’s great. It is pure fantasy of course (in the Chiang’s Law sense of being about special people rather than strange rules), full of Chosen Ones doing Great Man (or Great Hobbit) things. As an extended allegory for society and technology it absolutely sucks and is also ludicrously wrong-headed. Humorless Chosen people presiding grimly over a world in terminal decline, fighting Dark Lords, playing out decline-and-fall scripts to which there is no alternative, no Plan B.
The point was to put routing and privacy at the foundation of "the internet"
It was mostly a response to the knowledge of prolific government and corporate spying. There are public nodes to piggyback on the legacy internet but it's another project that let's users build and control their own infrastructure, e.g. mesh-local
Also see CJDNS, darknet project and hyperboria
> Yggdrasil was created in order to build a decentralised routing scheme for mesh networks that can potentially operate at a global scale, motivated in particular by significant performance and scaling issues that were present in cjdns at the time.
( https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/faq.html )
but that was a while back; where do they stand today?
Yggdrasil is a new experimental compact routing scheme. It is designed to be a future-proof and decentralised alternative to the structured routing protocols commonly used today on the Internet, as well as an enabling technology for future large-scale mesh networks. Yggdrasil is:
Scalable
Supports large, complex or even Internet-scale topologies
Self-healing
Network responds quickly to connection failures or mobility events
Encrypted
Traffic sent across the network is always fully end-to-end encrypted
Peer-to-peer
Works entirely ad-hoc by design with no built-in points of centralisation
Cross-platform
Supported on Linux, macOS, Windows, iOS, Android and more
The current implementation of Yggdrasil is a lightweight userspace software router which is easy to configure and supported on a wide range of platforms. It provides end-to-end encrypted IPv6 routing between all network participants. Peerings between nodes can be configured using TCP/TLS connections over local area networks, point-to-point links or the Internet. Even though the Yggdrasil Network provides IPv6 routing between nodes, peering connections can be set up over either IPv4 or IPv6 networks.
This is still an alpha-stage project and there may be some breaking changes in the future. Despite that, Yggdrasil is generally stable enough for day-to-day use and a small number of users have been using and stress-testing Yggdrasil quite heavily for a variety of use cases. If you are interested in or would like to get involved in the Yggdrasil project, start below:
Install and configure Yggdrasil on your own computer or router to join the network.