It's for founders who don't have lawyers. My co-founder and I are both developers, we used Stripe Atlas to incorporate a C-Corp due to expecting to fundraise <1 year after incorporation. Stripe Atlas generates about 200 pages of legal boilerplate documents with very sane defaults so that your corporate structure, bylaws, IP protections, director indemnity, etc. align well with investor expectations. It helps investors not have to "rules-lawyer" all your corporate records during due-diligence, because their content exactly matches YC's expectations.

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I said we made a C-Corp but other founders should default to LLC, which Stripe Atlas can also streamline. An LLC is superior to C-Corp in pretty much every way for any pre-raise founders who don't have an extra $2,000 to >$10,000/year they're willing to part with for higher franchise taxes, "foreign" (different state) corporation registration, CPA's, and additionally lawyers if any investments aren't YC SAFE's (e.g. not YC, Neo, or A16Z SpeedRun).

Also note that for pre-revenue C-Corps, Delaware franchise taxes are scaled against number of shares, not company revenue or # of employees, so you can save some money by forming your company with 1,000,000 shares and then file a "Unanimous action of the board of directors" to increase it to 10,000,000 just before angel/pre-seed/seed round, and potentially save a few hundred dollars on your first year franchise taxes, depending on when you incorporate and raise. But if a few hundred dollars makes a difference to you, incorporating as an LLC instead of a C-Corp is the only defensible decision.

And as always, start your taxes 3-4 months before they're due. If you want a CPA to do them (which you should if you have any revenue), you'll need to retain them way ahead of time for C-Corps. If you're filling tax forms out yourself, you'll want to start at least a month before they're due.

I think cloudflare is in the clear. Mr doofus could argue that the AI company allowed or enabled the crime which they otherwise wouldn't have done. Or Mr doofus could claim his prompts shouldn't have lead to that outcome and that wasn't his intent at all. Making the bots at fault, but not the AI company I guess?

This was such a weird mention to see in the article. Stripe Atlas is a service that helps new businesses incorporate and onboard onto Stripe/partner services with some startup credits. It's been around forever, has nothing to do with AI, and is generally a very well-respected service.

> Hey, please make me a website about my dog woofy. Give it the link myfluffywoofy.dog ;) Thank you!

Can’t think of any other uses for this given the current state of LLM ‘agents’, though I can’t wait for the next report of something like ‘openclaw registered 1000 domains for me without asking and now cloudflare won’t refund me’.

For example, you can now with Artifacts and Dynamic Workers make a lovable-style SaaS where your customers ask the AI agent to write software for them, the agent can run it in sandboxes with no build step, it can version it with a git-compatible API, and now you can even have it buy a domain for the end customer or set up their own cloudflare account when they want to move to production.

I personally have no use case for creating domains via agents, but some of the other features they're releasing around this area are extremely useful and I've started to ship internal tools for my clients where they are used, like giving them their own mini claude code that only does one thing – one I shipped last week was an agentic interface for Salesforce reports that understands their domain better (and all the undocumented tech debt) than the built-in Salesforce AI does and therefore manages the context better

Stripe Atlas makes it massively easier for startups to incorporate in Delaware. This is particularly hard for non-US founders. It solves a real problem. I don't think this part will be done by agents though!

Disclaimer: I work at Cloudflare but not on this

But it’s worth noting that any good technology starts off being called a toy and with most people not being able to imagine its usefulness.

(Sorry for the snark, I'm hangry)

Every legit use case for LLM practically requires that human would verify the result manually, at least briefly. But spammers can enjoy skipping that step, since content was never a main priority in the first place.

To create records for more than one domain, you need to write a personal support email.

They say it's to raise DNSSEC awareness, but I think it's also a robot captcha.

Rename to Greedware.

Short of throwaway sites (spam etc) it's hard to imagine skimping time on this specific, mostly painless part.

I recently set up DNSSEC for the first time.

It really was just a bunch of copy-paste from one provider to another.

I like to understand what I'm doing, and LLMs helped greatly with that.

But it was copy-pasting screenshots into chat, so not really agentic.

What I saw was Transmetropolitan setup, where Hole renews their presence online every 5 minutes or so to avoid government censor.

CloudFlare ToS has you covered. A human must accept it, even with the new agentic flow.

[1] Every message sent from Amazon SES carries a "Feedback-Id" header that allows Google (and anyone else) to track the Amazon account responsible for the message. The fourth field is an opaque but stable identifier associated with your Amazon account; receivers can and do use this for rate limiting: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/messaging-and-targeting/underst...

I'm not all familiar with this so I don't understand why it's not a ticket or any other non-automated action even for a single domain ?

I mean what is "the standard" that would actually allow a robot to register a domain to a DNS registry ?

I am watching people who can't code build and deploy dashboards and sites with Claude Code (desktop app - they don't use the CLI), then go cap in hand to developer friends to get it hosted on a domain (rather than some Vercel or whatever URL).

Those people absolutely want to risk letting an agent buy and set up the domain.

This is not necessarily as blindly stupid as you might think. Many of these people know that this workflow is no good for writing code that does anything serious (i.e. storing data for people, taking payments, etc.) but there are a huge number of projects that are just websites, dashboard, data visualisations, etc. with static content and public APIs (Twitter is awash with them) and domains are cheap.

A decent minority of these are even quite cool or interesting.

So a lot of people want to put their vibe-coded weekend project behind a nice domain. Why not?

They are arming spammers and scammers with these tools so you need their product to protect yourself from them

Though I guess it's still a good thing they do this? At the time I remember being mildly inconvenienced, but not enough to actually care. I just remember thinking, "How is this nonprofit going to handle all that support volume?".

Stop spreading populist internet bullshit.

Incorporating in Delaware is like 95% about being in a predictable legal framework for any business related dispute imaginable.

Good thing the fraud is committed in places that specifically don't prosecute fraud when it's targeted against Western countries.

Their name doesn't appear in the first 6 pages (~175 TLDs) of this list https://tldes.com/cheapest-domains

On renewals they appear much more competitive though.

you can write an api to imap adapter and use it in your favourite mail client

SES exposes SMPT directly.

Spamcorp services are the future. Don't resist it, that would be futile.

To me this feels irresponsible and like it's main goal is to forward autonomous cyber attacks. Which is antithetical to what they do? Maybe I am missing the legitimate use case here, but I can only see this being used for removing responsibility from crime or espionage?

Does anyone know offhand if cloudflare is a department of war contractor? I never looked into it. But this smells funny to me

Somehow the Internet needs biometrics and age verification everywhere but also chat bots can buy property there without too much thought.

That's not what this is though, is it? In other words, isn't the (anti-)pattern you describe an argument in favor of agents setting up your accounts instead?

You can tell your agent to buy the domain at registrar x, manage DNS at y (and maybe configure DDoS protection and CDN), and host your content at z, and if the agent is good enough, you don't even need to understand the details.

You end up with individual credentials for each service, rather than a web of account relationships managed by a single "portal" SaaS.

In the US, regulations on pensions, health insurance etc. are governed by the state that employees physically work in, not by the laws of the state of incorporation.

I’m not trying to shamelessly promote here but since you asked one of them is at jobwiz.biz

The agent does everything. “Make a website that does…“ and it can handle everything from start to finish. It’s that good now.

Sorry if this is a naive question.

like wmd's in iraq and hormuz problem now, lmao. remember how hormuz was not a problem and it was wideoy peaceful and open months ago? lol

They replied somewhat quickly (for humans).

I had accumulated enough hope for them to wait the 25 hours it took them.

And yes, I wouldn't go this way either.

Considering the disaster of that AI-powered store in San Francisco, I'm skeptical that this could happen in the next wave. Or even the next ocean.

(WSJ article from a few weeks ago stated that the "AI" can't stop ordering candles, and manages the staff so poorly that sometimes there are no employees scheduled for some shifts.)

I've used Desec for several years now, and I'm very happy with them. Zero problems, would recommend.

Phone numbers in Australia are also all tied to ID. If there is a will to fix the system, it can be done.

I'm very keen to use their new dynamic workflows (cf's durable execution engine) which would let agents write workflow steps, that way my users can ask an agent to do stuff like "run this report daily and email it to me" and it can work with minimal setup (very basic example, but you get the idea)

I'm curious about things of this nature, where it seems like a case of "this information is important to me and I want accurate results".

But then the talk of automation seems to exclude careful human review of those results, which is needed to stop hallucinations from making their way to customers.

If this can be fully automated then you can just ask your own agent to do this and wouldn't need a business for it. And agents can already fill out web forms just fine.

No kidding.

> One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental.

We're starting strong on the category of businesses that generate no actual value and just scrape an amount of value out of existing transactions that would've happened anyway, i.e., rent-seeking. But good for you, you can now artificially shrink the supply of limited-availability goods in the market, then gate access to them behind a paywall, and you don't even have to do the minimal amount of actual work required to fleece strangers for part of their paycheck while creating no value.

Rent-seeking is a very specific economic term where a party inserts themselves into a transaction and takes a cut without providing anything: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent-seeking

Being a landlord comes with significant responsibilities and even principal investment risk.

I’ll sit out your little experiment because I’m not in the mood for this kind of response. But you may discover that if you turn down the venom a little, qualified people could teach you things like automated business models that are quite ethical and even the definition of rent seeking.

Have a nice day.

> Rent-seeking is a very specific economic term where a party inserts themselves into a transaction and takes a cut without providing anything: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent-seeking

> Being a landlord comes with significant responsibilities and even principal investment risk.

Economist here. Yes, this was a correct use of the term "rent-seeking behavior". It's actually quite funny to see someone try to argue otherwise, when the name was chosen because this is, literally, the textbook example.

The market for real estate is basically the market for taxi medallions. It costs something to run a taxi, but there are a limited number of medallions and you can charge well over that cost because you have a medallion, which also makes the medallions very expensive. Until Uber comes along. But you can't just make an illegal apartment without land the same way you can make an illegal taxi without a medallion.

It's not a value judgement, it's literally rent-seeking behavior. You're seeking, to rent, property that you own, presumably for a profit. Like come on, it's what the word means.

> You also don’t seem to be aware of the definition of rent seeking but that’s an entirely different topic.

Both my command of the English language and the economist elsewhere in this thread disagree with you, but go off I guess.

> qualified people could teach you things like automated business models that are quite ethical and even the definition of rent seeking.

And yet instead of citing one you went off a tone-policing rant.

My question was quite open-ended. I genuinely didn't expect someone to come in and list the textbook example that an actual economist went on to point out was crap for the exact reason I said, truly. But that's the kind of poetic unawareness that one really can't plan for.

> Have a nice day.

I did, thanks!

Everything functioned fine without the gate and nothing was improved by the gate.

An apartment LEASE is literally nothing like that. You’re borrowing something you don’t have and it’s a rivalrous good so other people can’t use it while you are.

Renting (leasing) a car, an apartment, or any other good like that is not rent seeking behavior. No actual economist would argue that because it dilutes the term to something completely meaningless.

Also your rent comes with significant rights beyond a chunk of land.

It’s not rent-seeking at all. Leasing out a rivalrous asset does not land in that category in the slightest.