> at a Sonnet 4.6-level model

MiMo v2.5.0-Pro is honestly the first Chinese model that I've tried where I really though why should I use Claude Sonnet when I can get the same results for a fraction of the cost. There was always something off about Chinese models that made it apparent that it couldn't fully compete with GPT, Claude, Gemini, etc. but this was the first model where I was like, this feels like Sonnet.

I can't prove it, but I think they trained heavily on Claude output. From my perspective I don't care since Anthropic trained on my data.

Using them also works well for North Americans as our peak hours is not theirs.

If I had one complaint, the v2.5.0-Pro model thinks too much.

The "install" process asks you to run a curl piped into bash. That might be a bit of a concern to some folks.

So funny I have noticed how terrible the signup is on all these Chinese models, companies etc. Always wonder why it is such an easy process. Like QQ, Tencent etc demos Ive seen past year

Looks like they have very effective collaboration with DeepSeek and Kimi. Those three models have been bouncing ideas and sharing R&D innovation, which made all of them improve very fast.

Based solely on quality and price, OpenAI, Anthropic, and other western models just can't compete with the new generation of Chinese open models.

I don't think many understand that Sonnet and even Haiku can probably accomplish their task, instead of them invoking a beast like Opus to tell them about todays weather.

I don't known how Codex works, but we can set environment variables and point Claude CLI to deepseek. I think that before slashing prices they will slash those environment variables. After all they are not working to give a free TUI to deepseek and possibly to other competitors. But eventually yes, prices will go down or there will be an attempt at a regulatory capture.

Sounds like they slapped in a bunch of common plugins and released it as a product to promote the free-for-a-limited-time use of their new coding AI service.

You can change the language via the header: The rightmost option is a language dropdown.

It's a client-side change and doesn't impact the URL so users must manually change it each time they visit the site though

Yes, but this has nothing to do with MiMo (the model).

This is what Claude Code is to Claude

MiMo Code is not a model, it's a harness like Claude Code / OpenCode / Codex (which is still open source, Apache 2.0, btw).

You might mean the MiMo-V2.5-Pro model?

> Why not just contribute to OpenCode instead of creating a clone :/

It's controlled by a different organization; in particular a startup in a "competing" space.

They default it to talking to a free version of their model (which is incredibly cheap if you decide you like it.)

But it seems trivially easy to run it against local models. Their onboarding guide offers that option, though I have no idea if it changes any functionality.

So, basically the same thing silicon valley has been doing for the past half decade.

Thanks, I missed that on first glance and did manual translation.

Not sure why my iPhone shows an option to translate website but all the destination languages to pick from (I have multiple languages installed), including English, are greyed out. iPhone does support translating from Chinese (Simplified or Traditional), and the button to translate website isn’t greyed out like it is for unsupported/unrecognized languages. Might be an iOS 27 bug, because it is working on other websites?

I found it relevant and actually just the information I was looking for. Having a highly recommended model behind the tool makes it worth further investigation.

Sorry for confusion. I indeed meant the model itself.

Terrific link thanks for highlighting it

This is how everyone does it now. Including Anthropic.

To be fair, is that any different from naively trusting NPM? It's not like NPM is doing any vetting. They're every threat actors favorite sandbox these days.

https://code.claude.com/docs/en/quickstart

Codex use this (for update).

> sh -c 'curl -fsSL https://chatgpt.com/codex/install.sh | CODEX_NON_INTERACTIVE=1 sh'

This is just sh, not bash, but I doubt it would be any better.

You're right that it's as dangerous as it's executing random third-party code on your machine, but the method also has propagated far beyond PoCs and such at this point. All of these projects and many others push that install method: Bun, Deno, rustup, k3s, Docker (if using their helper script), Homebrew, Tailscale...

Thats exactly same as Claude Code offer: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/quickstart

The latter. It looks like it's meant to be a batteries-included agent to promote their free-for-a-limited time AI service that it connects to by default.

> promote the free-for-a-limited-time use of their new coding AI service

Not sure which "free" service you're referring to, but MiMo v2.5 Pro is plenty capable & (after its recent 70%+ price drop) one of the most affordable options in its class (DeepSeek v4 Pro, MiniMax M3, & Qwen 3.7 Plus). I read somewhere that Labs are incentivized to implement custom harnesses because each model has its strengths, quirks, & blindspots (like Qwen forking Gemini CLI)?

Why not persist it through a query param? Or a lang param for that matter

He didn't say MiMo Code

We've had this discussion since Eazel Linux desktop popularized bash | curl in 2001.

> npm install ... is a much better approach to managing installed packages.

No. Until the upcoming version of npm is out, npm will also run arbitrary code. Almost all common installation tools run arbitrary code. Not doing that is sadly the exception for now.

Why is OpenCode awful?

> MiMoCode is built as a fork of OpenCode.

That’s why

Top right corner

it does have telemetry, enabled by default, that sends metrics to tracking.miui.com, including what model you are using. it can be turned off by environment variable (MIMOCODE_ENABLE_ANALYSIS=false), and yes it still has all the normal OpenCode provider logic so it will work with other/local models. it also automatically looks for updates and fetches a mimo model list, including when the telemetry is off, though those can also be disabled.

telemetry enabled by default and named "analysis" is not great.

> like Qwen forking Gemini CLI

That was a good call. Gemini CLI is dead.

What I like about MiMo too is that it is multimodal.

For example, I can send screenshots of what I'm developing and it understands.

Language support was probably an afterthought since their target audience all read Chinese

Saying "This" on a post about "Mimo Code" leads one to, rightly, assume you are referring to "Mimo Code". If they commentor wanted to make a comment about a specific model it would have be clearer to simply mention the model instead of getting there transitively.

Who isn’t?

Ok, fair enough compared to the rest of the proeminent actors I guess, but quite confusing from dev point of view. Lately I started to experiment with model like Qwen2.5 on local. Good enough to ask simple question, but didn’t manage to do anything remotely close a agents I started to experiment with through Copilot.

Feels like maybe you're just noticing this because it defaults to Chinese. Is that true?

How many sites do this but you don't notice because they default to English?

KHTML is dead now, though. It was basically embraced, extended and extinguished by Apple and Google, who both wanted to take away the leverage of the community.

Today, legacy KHTML maintainers are boxed-out of upstream decisions that might prevent Manifest v2 from swirling down the drain. I'd argue the story isn't very beautiful anymore.

I'm slapping debian on any crap hardware around, but that's just me with different ideological standards.

qwen3.5 9b runs okay on my 12GB gaming GPU. It's very stupid as a coding agent but it's possible to get useful work out of it.

Personally, none, I’m not English native. I didn’t notice the locale switch, but mostly because the look of the website was so beautiful I didn’t pay attention to menus. I wonder if ideograms keeps looking so beautiful once you learned to decode them. I never found Latin script to be particularly beautiful, and to this date Arabic script remains my favorite one in term of esthetic (I can’t read Arabic ever).

But what if you have English configured as a preferred language? Isn't that what it's for? Wouldn't it make sense for a website to respect that (when available)? I hate that google.com doesn't and defaults to random languages based on IP.

This is not exactly what you’re asking about, but I started learning Japanese when I was in the middle of playing Cyberpunk 2077 (for unrelated reasons); and I gotta tell you; realizing that 98% of the Japanese text everywhere in the game was just “hotel” or “karaoke” definitely took away some charm from it.

Web standard often give great grounds to leverage on. Modern stacks often really poorly work with a lot its surface and reinvente half baked bespoke alternatives.