https://www.treehugger.com/special-places-in-the-san-gabriel...
Also probably context for many LA people, as most seem to consider those mountains a Hollywood backdrop, not a place you can be in 90 minutes from anywhere in LA (with favorable traffic).
The path was added to OSM two years ago, which is after the analysis was done. OSM is a moving target!
https://web.archive.org/web/20240621094642/https://www.proje...
The most surprising one to me is: Least Remote: Kansas (0.8 miles from a road).
As someone who lives in the very densely populated greater Boston area, Kansas doesn't exactly strike me as a prime candidate for not being able to get away from roads.
Their website seems to have been commandeered by some Indonesian online casino scam thing in late 2024 and is now offline. I'm unsure of the ongoing state of the project.
[1]: https://ironhiker.blogspot.com/2025/08/baden-powell-x3-and-r...
The Wikipedia article for section (survey) has an aerial photo of Kansas in it, naturally: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_(United_States_land_su...
Edit: they have another page describing Alaska. It seems that the linked page might only describe the contiguous US? But also, wow. This seems stupid:
> Thoughts of roadless Alaska came to mind and our amazing, wild trek through the Brooks Range of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. We hired a bush plane to drop us off in a nameless valley. At 50 miles from the nearest village or road, we were awed with excitement and healthy fear. We agreed to meet up 9 days and 35 miles later at a flat spot where he could land on the tundra marked by a heap of moose antlers. He looked at us awfully cock-eyed when we told him we had no satellite phone. He asked, “well, why not?” We told him that we were deliberately here to remove ourselves from civilization and contact with it. Watching our pilot fly away, we realized we were as far from towns and roads, and therefore, humans as we could possibly imagine.
The Roads Only Pole of Inaccessibility would require a hike downslope from Ross Mtn peak to about 1400-1450m elevation. You could use the ridge that runs SE away from the peak of Ross Mountain to a bench at about 1695m elevation just NE of the spot and, depending on terrain, could hike the last 650 m (as the crow flies) to the curve in that stream channel 300 m downslope. The map sympbols indicate it is meadow so you can probably see where you're heading all the way. (LOL, I checked GEarth and it isn't meadow at all. The slope looks steep but I'm sure a dedicated hiker could manage.)
After spending a bit of time on GEarth looking at this location it appears that the Roads Only point is probably the Ross Gulch in the Johnson Corner area. Without ever having been there and using only GEarth and the photos people have posted in that locality to get an idea of terrain I think the easiest way to reach that point is to follow the ridge from Ross Mountain as described to the bench noted. You'll be above that bend in the Gulch on the east side where the slopes are less steep and you should be able to zig-zag across terrain to the point.
To access the Paved Driving Allowed Roads Only Pole of Inaccessibility you probably want to just take the Iron Mountain Trail up to the peak (2419 m) and hike downslope about 500 m in elevation (around 1 km best guess for hiking distance) along that NNW trending ridge to the north of that drainage above the Fish Fork campground down on the river.
Thanks. This was fun.
*technically not remote at all in this context as they all took place on trails
"Towns" on a map might literally be a single home up there. It's as remote as can be even alongside utility roads.
The Kansas landscape is very underrated. Just infinite sky in all directions.
So I was out hiking with a friend, and a question came up about where the least accessible point of the San Gabriel Mountains was, with "accessible" defined as having a road or trail nearby. I decided to answer this question. The resulting code is in a fresh repository: https://github.com/dkogan/inaccessibility.
This is called the Pole of Inaccessibility: a point that is as far away as possible from a given set of objects. Locations of such poles are known for the most landlocked spot on earth or most far away from land. Here we limit ourselves to the San Gabriel Mountains, and try to stay away from roads and trails.
OpenStreetMap has open data I can use to map out all the roads and trails. This is the input dataset.
For 2D geometry, the best approach to compute the Pole of Inaccessibility appears to be to construct a Voronoi diagram of the geometry we're trying to stay away from, and to find the Voronoi vertex corresponding to the furthest-away point.
Our world is not 2D. Instead, it has varying elevation sitting on top of an ellipsoid. The grand purpose here is to compute a location that hardy people can visit and to tell everybody they did it, so extreme accuracy is not required. Thus I claim that assuming the world is locally-flat and using the Voronoi-diagram-based method is sufficient. So I construct a plane that best describes my query area and project all my input points to this plane. I use a plane that is tangent to the Earth's surface at the center of the query area. This clearly wouldn't work if trying to find the pole of inaccessibility of something as large as an ocean, for instance, but it works here.
To compute the tangent plane, I assume the Earth is spherical. As I move along the tangent plane away from the point of tangency, the elevation error grows:
E = sqrt(Rearth2 + d2) - Rearth
The San Gabriels are about 80km across, and the tangent plane sits in the middle, so at worst d = 40km and the error is about 125m. That's plenty good enough. Plot (source):
I ignore the ellipsoid shape of the Earth outright. I ignore the topography as well, since including it in my distance metrics would require a fancier algorithm than making a Voronoi diagram, and it would make the notion of "inaccessibility" more ambiguous.
I want to use the most basic Voronoi algorithm, so I represent my input as a set of points only; no line segments. To get reasonable accuracy, I make sure to sample each road at least every 100m.
Now that I have my set of dense-enough points in 2D, I construct the Voronoi diagram. Without constraints the furthest-away point would be infinitely far off to one side, so generally people constrain the solution to lie within the convex hull of the input points. This means that the Pole of Inaccessibility lies either on a Voronoi vertex or at an intersection of a Voronoi edge and the convex hull of the input. In my case there are generally more roads at the edges of my query area that in the interior (less stuff in the mountains than in the flats), so I simply assume that the Pole of Inaccessibility is not on the convex hull. This simplifies my implementation since I simply ignore all the Voronoi vertices that are outside of the query region.
So I need to look at every Voronoi vertex, check the distance between it and an adjacent input point, and return the vertex with the largest such distance.
Each step in the process lives in its own program. This simplifies implementation and makes it easy to work on each piece separately.
First we query OSM. This is done with the query.sh script. It takes in corners of the query area, constructs the query, sends it off to the server, and stores the result. query.sh takes 4 arguments; lat0, lon0, lat1, lon1, and stores its output in a file called query_$lat0_$lon0_$lat1_$lon1.json. The query uses the OSM Overpass query language. By default I simply look at all the roads, trails (everything with a highway tag):
[out:json];
way ["highway"] ($lat0,$lon0,$lat1,$lon1);
(._;>;);
out;
If I want to only consider roads in my computation (allow trails), then I can exclude trails from the query:
[out:json];
way ["highway"] ["highway" != "footway" ] ["highway" != "path" ] ($lat0,$lon0,$lat1,$lon1);
(._;>;);
out;
Sample invocation:
$ ./query.sh 34.1390884 -118.4944153 34.5020298 -117.5852966
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 28.3M 0 28.3M 0 138 72803 0 --:--:-- 0:06:48 --:--:-- 138k
$ ls -lh query*
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkogan dkogan 29M May 6 04:12 query_34.1390884_-118.4944153_34.5020298_-117.5852966.json
Next, I take the lat/lon pairs, map them to the tangent plane and make sure the data is sufficiently dense. This is done by the massage_input.pl script. It takes in the query_....json file we just obtained, and generates a points_$lat0_$lon0_$lat1_$lon1.dat file that is a list of (x,y) tuples in my plane. There's a small header of 4 values, representing the bounds of my data so that I can reject outlying vertices, as described earlier.
Sample invocation:
$ ./massage_input.pl query_34.1390884_-118.4944153_34.5020298_-117.5852966.json
$ ls -lh points*
-rw-r--r-- 1 dkogan dkogan 4.3M May 6 04:20 points_34.1390884_-118.4944153_34.5020298_-117.5852966.dat
Now we can compute the Voronoi diagram. I use boost::polygon to do this. I had concerns that this step would be prohibitively slow, but the algorithm and this implementation are quick-enough such that this "just works".
The points_....dat file is inputs on standard input. Note that this is different from the other tools that read a file on the commandline instead.
For each Voronoi vertex I get an arbitrary neighboring edge, and an arbitrary neighboring cell. The distance between the vertex and the cell center is identical for any such edge, cell by definition of a Voronoi vertex. I keep track of the cell with the largest distance between the vertex and the cell center, and I report the vertex with the largest such distance as my Pole of Inaccessibility.
Sample invocation:
$ ./voronoi < points_34.1390884_-118.4944153_34.5020298_-117.5852966.dat
furthest point center, surrounding points: 25541 -78 25308 4259 21223 -543 26931 -4192 distance: 4342.873206
Bam! So the Pole of Inaccessibility is about 4.3 km from the nearest trail/road. The coordinates here are in my 2D tangent plane, which isn't super useful. Now I convert them to lat/lon and I'm done.
I do this with the massaging script as before simply by passing the coords in on the commandline:
$ ./massage_input.pl query_34.1390884_-118.4944153_34.5020298_-117.5852966.json 25541 -78 25308 4259 21223 -543 26931 -4192
34.3206972918426,-117.761740671673 34.3597096140465,-117.764149633831 34.3165155855012,-117.808770212857 34.2837076589351,-117.746734473897
OK. Done.
I did this three times
All Poles of Inaccessibility are above the East Fork of the San Gabriel River, by Ross Mountain and Iron Mountain:
| pole | lat,lon | distance to nearest (m) |
|---|---|---|
| roads,trails | 34.3204, -117.7617 | 4343 |
| roads only | 34.3108, -117.7474 | 5677 |
| paved roads | 34.2992, -117.7167 | 8157 |
This is shown nicely on the map:

Looks like the bounding spots for the roads,trails point are the road up to South Mt Hawkins, the PCT on top of Mt. Baden-Powell and the trail at the Bridge to Nowhere.
The bounding spots for the roads-only point is the same road up to South Mt Hawkins, the Cabin Flat Campground and Shoemaker Canyon Road.